GACC APRIL, 2000
Meeting Minutes

Greater Avenues Community Council Meeting held at the Sweet Library, April 5, 2000, at 7:00 p.m.

Conducted by Richard Leonard

Minutes taken by Jaynie Brown, RBrown7151@aol.com.

Welcome by Richard Leonard

REPORTS:

POLICE:

The Police Department is very pleased with your efforts in the Avenues - Capitol Hill area in preventing crime.  Detective Derrick Cotes has been assigned to the Capitol Hill-Avenues as the Liaison between the Avenues and Police Department, so he will give the stats.  There was 1 sexual assault, but it was not in our area.  The victim came to the LDS Hospital but declined to have an exam and left.  One robbery was reported at 3rd Ave and G Street at 9:45 p.m.  A male white adult stopped two ladies out walking in the middle of the intersection, and at gunpoint asked for purses and took them and left.  There were 9 burglaries in the Aves.  2 garages were left unsecured.  Two homes had forced entries, two left windows open.  Two businesses had a forced entry.  9 cars were reported stolen.

QUESTION:  Do clubs work to prevent car thefts?

RESPONSE: The club is a very effective but it must be installed properly or they can take the car.  The long handle must be stuck in the corner up above of the steering wheel.  People hired as household help did some burglary and car thefts.  Be very careful whom you hire.  Always do a background check.  Check references.  Ask to speak with the last person they helped.                                                            (top)

QUESTION: Can you ask for Driver's License I.D.?

RESPONSE: Yes, you can ask to see the card and get their number and social security number.  A business card is not identification.  It has to be a government document.

QUESTION:  Are the police still responding to false alarms?

RESPONSE: Yes.  But it costs you a great deal in tax dollars to have them respond to all the false alarms.  In 7 years I've responded to only 1 actual burglary, and they didn't have an alarm.  A neighbor reported it.  If you need to ask me questions, call me at work: 799-3444.

CITY COUNCIL:

Tom Rogan: I want to comment on three things:

  1. We have received the report that they have begun tearing the home down on G Street by the Governor's Mansion.  Please communicate our outrage if you know the Governor.  We do not appreciate getting misled.
  2. Mayor's Executive order: I support what the Mayor did on the Gay issue. The Mayor can choose to be more specific in running the City.  I voted against the repeal last year of the Gay Ordinance.  The Mayor was voted in by 60% of the people who voted in the last election, and he said he would do that as one of his campaign promises.
  3. Community Building.  We are a great neighborhood in building Community.  We mail a monthly agenda to 9000 households.  It is funded by the community.

    Maureen Maus has done a remarkable, wonderful, positive effort in the Children's street Art signs.  The Adopt - A - Park was Richard Leonard's idea.  The Community Council will establish a sub-committee of people who will assume certain tasks in that effort.  I will read a letter sent by the City from Rich Graham: "I have responsibility of Parks, and Tom shared a letter from you with your idea of "Adopt-A-Park.  I like your proposal and want to talk with you in greater detail and want to talk with you and get started this spring.  I have directed the Parks to list the daily and weekly maintenance and they will get this list to you so you can see what you can do." What this does is save the City money and get us together as neighbors.  I commend all of you and hope you will cooperate with Richard.  Call me with questions at 355-0461.  Email is teefar@aros.net.  I respond to all emails.

    SCHOOL BOARD:  Karen Derrick: You may have heard of the of the rumored closure of Beacon Heights.  Please know that we have not made a decision on this as yet.  We are very aware of the excellent program that they have there.  Our difficulty is that the enrollment on the East side of the City has dropped significantly and it has grown significantly on the West side of the City.  We have to find a way to get two new elementary schools on the West side.  One school has more than 800 students.  But no decision has yet been made on the Closure issue.

    LEGISLATURE:  Paula Julander and Ralph Becker: Education was a big issue and I think we gave the perception that we funded more than we did.  Actually the teachers' salary only went up 3-4% not the 7% that was listed.  Higher education was also hit.  House Bill 117, which asked that taxes be paid quarterly by business, which would have been a windfall for our students, did not make it up in the Senate.  The Governor vetoed the Sex-less education bill.  The Senate will likely not vote to over-ride.  The Utilities succeeded in taking away the consumer protection committee.  The bill was not vetoed but went into law without the Governor's signature.  It has a delay date and so it will be studied for a year before becoming law.  We have no new Bonding on state buildings and we are $400 billion behind in maintaining our buildings.  We think that is a great error.  For Paula and me and Dave Jones it was a discouraging session for not planning for the future.  We have one severe area, Utah State University has a deteriorating heating system, and we gave only a little to fund repairs.  It is a $40 million project.  We put in only $7 million in for patchwork, and it will cost us a lot more later.  We are on the Capitol Preservation Committee.  It is in a sad state of repairs. We need some major renovations.  We have been studying how other states are doing with their repairs.  We are very fortunate that the tornado did not hit it.  The Sunday closing of the Auto Dealers came at the request of the Auto Dealers, who wanted a 6-day workweek.  I traveled over 90% of the State and all the Auto Dealers asked for it.  The Banks are not open on Sunday to check credit, and so a lot of people can't get their cars anyway.  Dave Jones is retiring as a Representative.  He has been such a great advocate for this area.  He has great class and dignity, and we are sorry to see him go.  There are two excellent candidates running to replace him, one of whom is here.  Salt Lake County is trying to get a Petition to put on the ballot to decide if the water is going to be fluoridated.  Please sign the petition as it goes around.

    TRAFFIC:  The Traffic Committee meeting for the month of April will be held at the home of Jim Jenkin 212 -5th Avenue, between A and B street.  We will put up the Children's Street Art signs on Saturday on 4th Ave.  just west of "I" street at 8:00 a.m.  Donuts and Bagels and juice and coffee will be donated.  Rocky will be there also.  We will put the signs you see outside on the main streets in the Avenues.  We need help and bring a hammer.  We have 600 signs, which have been done by the children at the various Elementary schools in the Avenues.  If you get a sign on your property, please take care of it and make sure it stays up for 2 months in the parking strips in front.                                 (top)

    7-11 STORE:  Troy Allred: We want to put a small sensor light above the door of our 7-11 Store on 3rd. Avenue so our clerks who arrive before dawn and leave after dark can have enough light for security to open the door and be safe. It will stay on for 5 minutes. It will not be shining in anyone's window.

    COMMENT: I make a motion that we as a council approve the light.  Seconded.

    VOTE: Passed by a unanimous vote.

    John Sittner: The Olympic Committee will begin meeting every month in May and we will keep you informed of dates and timing.

    Scott Barrclough - Community Relations Coordinator for District 3:

    The parking strip recommendations that have been under discussion will be presented April 6 in the Double Tree Hotel 8-9:30 a.m.  This Saturday after the kick-off the Mayor will be in Sam Weller book store 254 S.  Main from 10-12 noon.  Saturday there will be an Olympic Short Sport Program for children to come and participate.  It will be 10-2-:00.  There is a Walk for life program, around Washington square, which is a mile.  The first 100 people who register will get a pin.  Volunteer sign-ups for the Olympics on the Web site or call them.  Concerning Pay-phones: There was a Committee established to deal with problems and provide self -monitor.  If you have problems with pay phones, call 567-9500.  They can talk with you about any problems.  They are thinking about making them so they can't get in-coming calls so they can't do drug deals.  Cemetery lighting, we had a transformer blow, and we are working to get it fixed.  The Hall in City creek should be vacated then the Parks dept can fix it up.  We are going to try and offer that building for a Community Center, meetings, retreats, etc.  Let us know what you think should happen there, and who should do the booking.  One issue is that if the Parks Dept has to go open the door and lock up the building it will cost taxpayers money.  Call with comments: 535-6338.

    CITY PLANNERS:  Jackie Gasparik and Bill Allayaurd: City Council proposed that we create 2 new zones NB (Neighborhood businesses) and SNB (Small Neighborhood Businesses) to deal with the businesses that are already in existence but not zoned properly in the Neighborhoods.  Two meetings will be held to discuss this.  There will be an Open House to explain the City wide re-zoning held April 13th from 6-8 p.m.  in room 313 and a Planning Commission Hearing to hear input April 20th at 7:00 pm.  Call with questions: 535-6354.

    SALT LAKE SIGN ORDINANCE -Doug Dansie: There is a new sign ordinance under discussion in Salt Lake City.  We want to clarify that a mural is not a sign.  Murals have always been legal.  They are now.  This issue came out because the Dragon Café did a beautiful mural and painted the name of the café in one corner of the Mural.  Years ago Salt Lake outlawed painted wall signs because of how ugly they were.  Painted wall signs were outlawed in most commercial buildings because it was esthetics and it was felt that the applied signs were better looking.  In most cases it has not been an issue.  We were asked to look at the signage issue to determine where does it stop becoming art and start becoming signs.  We will still regulate the size of the text.  Any text in the mural, then we count it as a sign.  It will be on the Council agenda, but I am not sure of the date. 

    VACANT STRUCTURES STANDARDS - Matt Wolverton - Central City Community Council Vice-chairman:  We are sending the City a letter of suggested changes on abandoned up/ boarded up buildings.  The comments we made will be presented in a document given to the City Council tomorrow.  We want to do a joint statement with us.  Statement handed out.  DISCUSSIION followed.  Vote taken to support the Joint Resolution.  It passed, with only one dissenting vote. 

    MEMORY GROVE CLEAN UP - Phil Carroll:  Last year I asked the Community Council to jointly sponsor a Memory Grove Clean Up and it was a great success.  We would like your support of another joint clean up.  We are trying to set an earlier date of June 17 8-12 am for Clean up and Lunch.  It is a great community builder, and if you don't want to work, just show up to eat.  If we put in some clean-up time perhaps we can get some matching grant money to work on the East side of A Street. 

    COMMENT: I walk those trails and there is a lot of trash there.  Will they be cleaning that up too?

    RESPONSE: We are trying to get some volunteers to help with that in the Adopt-A-Park Program.  Unfortunately, because of lack of money it gets neglected.

    RICHARD: I have been trying to find other sources of money to help fund our park projects.  VOTE to jointly sponsor a Joint Memory Grove Clean-up Program with the Eagle Gate Stake: The vote passed unanimously.

    CITY TRANSPORTATION - Tim Harpst: We are going to be installing a 4-way Stop Sign at 11th Avenue and "I" Street. We are going to enlarge the stop signs, widen the painted stop bar to give additional clues to the east-west traffic there. We also plan on removing the mirrors. Because of the unique characteristics of the area, people are very uncomfortable with the safety of that corner.

    COMMENT:  I find the mirrors a little complicated, but I would rather have them stay.                         (top)

    COMMENT: There will be a lot of difficulty stopping on snowy days. Can the asphalt be grooved to give greater traction?

    COMMENT:  Larger signs are not enough - you need a blinking red light to warn of the stop sign. People going east-west who do not know there is a stop sign there cause most accidents.

    COMMENT:  The key to making the stop signs work is to keep the area clear of snow.

    COMMENT:   If you put a stop sign you need to put a grate on the deep gutter on the edges because people will slide into the gutters when they try to stop on snowy days. 

    COMMENT:  You also need a sign on the east-west stop signs saying, "Use Caution on snowy days down-hill traffic may not be able to stop."

    COMMENT: The Mirrors have to stay up.  You must also have the red flashing light.  I live 5 houses from there and I hear and see the accidents all the time.  They are almost always caused from east-west traffic not seeing the stop signs. 

    COMMENT: It will be a nightmare trying to stop on snowy days. 

    COMMENT: Put a large lighted stop sign over the street so people can see them.

    COMMENT: Post a sign with flags on it just ahead of the Stop signs so people will be warned it is coming.

    COMMENT: Please put up the Stop Signs before the school gets out.

    MARY MCDONALD: I work with Meals on Wheels in the Avenues, and I see Elderly people who need to have some help on their houses. They beg me to help them, and I can't because I am in the middle of delivering. I think we need to form a group to help the elderly who can't maintain their places.

    The meeting was adjourned at 9:00 p.m         (top)