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GACC
Community Meeting
Feb. 2, 2005, 7 p.m.
Sweet Library
NOTE TO BOARD
MEMBERS: PLEASE BE SURE TO SIGN OFFICIAL ROLL KEPT BY SECRETARY
AT MEETINGS
Attending:
Jill Van Langeveld; Brooke Adams; Judith Locke; Wayne Green; Jim
Jenkin; Denton Taylor; Kat Kivett; Jaynie Brown; Steve Mecham; Walter
Jones; Aileen Olsen; Phil Carroll; Shane McCarthy; Trish Orlando
About 50 people
attending (29 signed the sheet at door)
Announcements:
Last month
during open forum, a gentleman raised problems at 4th Avenue stairs
and city is looking at renovating them along the lines of the resident's
suggestions.
Review of regular
city ordinances related to being a good neighbor, such as use of
fireworks, time to get garbage out on street, hazardous waste requirements,
loud music, parking strip maintenance, pets, snow removal, etc.
Last month
there was discussion of use of photo cop in the Avenues. Allan Sanderson
is pursuing use of photo cop in state via HB 219 now before the
Utah Legislature. He is asking for three restrictions on use of
photo radar to be dropped. He took up the issue because of speeding
problems on his street. He is asking for a letter of support from
GACC that could be presented to the Legislature.
Lisa Heaton,
representative of House of Hope: She thanked Avenues residents for
donating to the cause and offering helping during Christmas. Residents
donated about $500 to House of Hope. It will hold an open house
on Feb. 12.
Mobile/Neighborhood
Watch: To participate in Mobile Watch you must go through background
check, training and then will be assigned a slot to patrol. Neighborhood
Watch promotes monitoring from homes and streets, encouraging neighbors
to keep an eye out on activities on their own street. Jill passed
around sign-up sheets for both programs.
School Board,
Doug Nelson: The board is very active this time of year lobbying
the Legislature. Tuition tax credits are a big issue again. We did
borrow an additional $35 million for school renovation projects.
The good news is the interest rate is extremely low.
School district
policies are in need of revision; one issue that frequently surfaces
is Academic Freedom. He asked whether those who have or had children
in the school district have had problems with material their children
are required to read to gauge the extent of the problem.
Two people
said they had children who were told to read books they considered
obscene; in both cases, the children were allowed to choose another
book.
Police report:
Officer Liane Frederick, 799-3000; 799-4635 is her direct line.
Burglaries: 9, same as in December; Car prowls: 31, up 4 from December;
Gang activity: 0, down 1; Aggravated assaults: 0, down 4; Auto theft:
14, up 6 from December; Sex assault: 0, same as last month; Robbery:
1, down 1
City Council:
Councilman Eric Jergensen said about 80 people turned out for UTA
meeting on changes to routes. One issue before City Council/RDA
is the soccer stadium. The city is really excited about having the
stadium in SLC but it might be a very expensive proposition. The
Council is trying to find ways to do it. The stadium would also
be used for concerts, high school games, perhaps be covered with
an ice sheet.
Other issues
at the Legislature that the city is watching: Salt Palace expansion,
RDA rule changes, bicycle laws, automated radar enforcement, streamlining
of sales tax, living wage business incentives.
Q.: Why doesn't
Salt Lake City pay its own employees a living wage?
A.: That is an item of discussion within the city.
Q.: Is the
city doing anything about traffic congestion at intersections at
rush hour?
A.: The city is looking at that problem.
Legacy project
is moving ahead. The Avenues has $100,000 and is hoping to get another
$100,000 grant from the city. The council should approve that allocation
Thursday night.
Neighborhood
Watch is the single best way to improve safety of neighborhoods.
He encouraged residents to get involved.
Legislative
Update: Rep. Ralph Becker said Sen. Paula Julander is resigning
from the Senate because of health problems. Someone contacted her
at last meeting and asked her about the ½ cent flood tax.
It was removed in 1997, but it was replaced with ¼ cent went
to water development and ¼ cent went to transportation.
The Legislature
is one-third of the way through the 2005 session and a few interesting
issues of beginning to bubble up.
Q.: What is
your sense of support for Madsen's bill allowing anyone to have
a loaded gun in their car?
A.: I just learned about it today and was shocked. Law enforcement
says that is one of the most dangerous situations they face. It
is in the Senate and I'm hoping we'll never see it in the House.
Q.: If you
look at statistics of where guns are stolen, they are stolen out
of cars a lot.
Q.: What is
the sense on giving tax credits to private schools?
A.: Tuition tax credits, I'm told the numbers are close in the House.
Opponents of the credit are the most nervous about their votes.
Given we have a Governor who favors it, may not bode well for those
opposed to it. People are looking to create stronger accountability
on tax credits. But this could be the year.
Q.: I was under
the impression this was for special needs kids.
A.: It would be across the board and would apply to those in private
school today. It would be the largest credit in the nation.
Q.: Who will
select Sen. Julander's replacement?
A.: The Democratic delegates in Senate District 2 will meet this
Saturday at 2 p.m.
Q.: What is
happening with the bill on domestic partner registrations?
A.: I got the sense it was a pretty conclusive vote. There is a
slim chance it could be revived. I suspect it won't reappear. There
is working being done by special interests and the Governor's office.
GACC By-laws
revision: Wayne Green presented proposed revisions to the by-laws.
The last draft of the by-laws was done in 1999. He went through
the by-laws section by section, allowing discussion and vote. He
passed out a summary by section, highlighting changes made. Summary
of specific changes is attached to minutes.
Article I,
name and purpose: No discussion. Approved as presented.
Article II,
membership: Approved as presented.
Some residents
said they thought 16 is too young. Others said the Avenues might
be better off to involve 16-year-olds because of traffic issues.
Doubtful that many 16-year-olds will be attracted to participating
in GACC.
Article III,
meetings and voting: Approved as presented.
One resident
complained that newsletter arrives only a day or so before meetings.
One resident
asked for clarification on emergency action by council to present
items for a vote without the two-month process.
Gwen Springmeyer
raised concern about how certain issues are presented, such as conditional
use permits. These don't require a vote, but rather input. Eric
Jergensen said community council input is sought on zoning/use issues.
Rarely is time a problem for seeking input.
One resident
raised concern about use of Robert's Rules of Order, which have
not been followed in this meeting. I am concerned that we just have
open discussion and not manipulate rules to limit participation.
Wayne said
that during discussion of controversial issues, like the leash law,
the advantage of having Robert's Rules allows you to manage discussions.
Another recommendation is that by-laws are to be general framing
document; day-to-day operations are to be defined in standard operating
procedures.
We could define
some type of parliamentary procedure as defined in standard operating
procedure.
Jaynie Brown
said adding "when necessary" might help as far as use
of Robert's Rules.
Wayne Green
said might be more problematic if applied intermittently.
One resident
suggested that the more Robert's Rules were used, the more familiar
we would become and the less scary it would seem.
Aileen Olsen
offered clarification between seeking of opinions and formal votes
requested of the community council, which require a two-month notice.
The by-law
review will continue at the next general meeting.
Bus route changes:
Jim Jenkin and Eric Jergensen reviewed discussions with UTA. Jim
said UTA presented suggestions on Jan. 26 for route changes. The
concept they developed is to come up with system that would allow
someone to arrive at a bus stop and expect a bus to arrive in 15
to 20 minutes. That requires streamlining bus routes. UTA is going
back to drawing board after hearing from residents. For now, there
will be no changes to Avenues routes until there is another informal
hearing, followed by a public hearing. There is a public hearing
on Feb. 17 on UTA's fare structure.
Eric said the
Avenues now has three routes. He said the community should come
up with it preferred routing over the next four to five months that
could be presented to UTA. He believes that preference would be
adopted.
Jim has written
a summary that will appear on the Web site. Any requests, questions
and recommendations for bus service should be directed to him for
presentation to the GACC bus committee.
City Creek
Road Closures: Bob Sperling from city's public utilities department
said the City Creek project involves filling in of Pleasant Grove
Reservoir and renovation of treatment plant. The canyon will reopen
Feb 28. It will take about 14 more months to finish treatment plant.
There may be periodic days that canyon is closed after Feb. 28,
but they will be few. Road will likely have to be repaved afterwards.
LDS Hospital
Parking: Gordon Haight and Ron Loock from IHC talked about parking
around LDS Hospital. Residents around the hospital have permits
to park. But expansions have pushed patient parking further into
residential area. The hospital would like to do something to alleviate
the problems. We still have people parking in residential areas
and getting ticketed. The hospital has valet parking; hope to add
a system like that used around Judge Memorial school with assigned
slots for residents.
Q.: Since residents
have to pay $12 a year to get a permit, will employees be required
to also pay a fee.
A.: Yes.
Q.: How long
is the valet parking?
A.: The way it is to work, valet areas will be moved around between
different spots.
Q.: How are
valet and employee spots distributed?
A.: On streets with no offstreet parking, very few. On streets with
offstreet parking, would place more spots. There would two or three
valet spots.
Q.: Have you
considered using a shuttle?
A.: The hospital tried that but didn't work well. It also gives
incentives for bus usage.
The hospital
wants more input from residents on such issues as number of drivers/cars
per residence, etc.
A hearing will
be later this month at 7 p.m. in Huntsman Education Center, the
second entrance between 8th and 9th Avenue on C Street. The hospital
is sending a letter to residents of area that will inform them of
date of meeting.
Mayor's office,
Gwen Springmeyer: Gwen passed out a monthly calendar. Alcohol use
is a subject the Mayor is focusing on. There will be a series of
public lectures on the alcohol-related issues in a brown-bag lunch
forum on Feb. 11. On Feb. 24 there will be a forum on the living
wage. The March 24 freedom forum will be on alcohol, relating to
liquor laws. The forums are at the Main Library.
The city is
beginning long-range planning for traffic, looking 10 to 20 years
in the future. It will look at bus, light rail, parking and street
use issues.
Call Gwen
at 535-6338 if you'd like to comment on traffic issues.
Meeting adjourned
at 9 p.m.
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