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GACC
Monthly Meeting
Sweet Library
April 7, 2004
Attendance:
approximately 55
Chair Peter
Corroon opened the meeting at 7:00 pm
Announcements:
Kathy Olsen is here tonight to pass out pamphlets regarding the
Kiwanis baby care drive. On Sat. April 10, Smith's Food Store will
receive items for the babies.
Madeleine Choir
school renovations meeting is set for Apr 21 at 4 pm. The landmark
commission will talk about this. Choir school is also asking for
a conditional use permit to alter East side of chapel, hall etc.
If anyone is interested go to room 126 in City and County bldg at
4 pm.
Mary Rogan
sent a card regarding Tom Rogan (her deceased husband) with thanks
for GACC's interest and gift in their behalf.
Agenda:
Police: (Mike
Hamideh reporting for us tonight & actually assigned to district
2) -has 8 years in law enforcement but is working in Glendale. Will
be around afterwards to talk about news item he did with Nadine
Wimmer on channel 5 TV with a parolee about why the parolee would
target a home for burglary. Was very telling experience. In avenues,
crimes toward a person were only 3. If you are coming up on a situation
you are uncomfortable with, predial your cell phone to 911 and let
them listen to what happens, especially if it's a higher risk activity.
Of 48 crimes that occurred all but 3 were property crimes. Vehicle
burglaries, residential burglaries, etc. Have had success in district
2. Will be stay after to give you some methods to alleviate this.
These numbers are not acceptable. Any questions? A few years ago
there was an officer assigned to this district who organized the
eyes on the street. We had his name or phone number. Detective Matt
Evans is our officer for this at 799 4643.
Legislature:
none here
City Council:
Eric Jergensen here to report. First report is on newsletter page
about Bountiful Blvd to come around mountain in open space and cut
through gravel pits and meet up with Beck Street. The Wasatch Front
regional council is comprised of mayors and commissioners from Weber,
Davis and Utah counties. They find transportation funds for projects
and this road has been on their table for so long. GACC and others
asked this transportation council to not pass this in 1993-94 and
that is already on the books. Been told for last 10 years that it
will not be built unless SLC approves it. They leave it on their
long-range plan anyway. Be wary and cautious because you never know.
There is a concern regarding the intersection of 7th East/ South
Temple and "I" Street which lets a South Temple traveler
going East to turn right on 7th east. Plan is to stripe that. Eric
has asked transportation to put that median back in. Take a close
look and send Eric an email. Allowed to make a right turn without
stopping even now without median. Contact Eric at Eric.jergensen@slc.com.
Officer brought up crime in the neighborhood-summer months bring
increase in car prowls and forced entry into cars. Non-forced means
someone forgot to lock their door. Last month there were 25 car
prowls. 13 forced/12 unforced. Of 13 prowls,7 had items in car like
laptop, CDs, briefcase, laundry. Please don't leave stuff in your
cars. Question: Striping on South Temple is 2 yellow lines so you
can't cross legally to make a left hand turn on J Street. Response:
they will look into that.
The Planning
commission met Mar. 10 while Eric was gone and tabled issue of North
SL property. He is approaching issue from legal and diplomatic directions
to preserve open space. We are hoping to come to a reasonable conclusion.
There are 90 lots as you drive down Beck Street. Above gravel pits
is pristine open space owned by North Salt Lake inside SLC boundaries.
North SL would like to come in and develop it and own it in their
city. If anybody is interested in seeing these plans, Peter has
the plans for it.
Arthritis block
walk - encourage you to make a contribution --or walk --or something.
Utopia decision
will be made on Apr 13. Call Eric with questions.
School board:
3 quick things. Follow-up from 3 months ago about Utah state high
school athletic assoc which meant 3 main high schools in SLC would
no longer be playing each other in athletics . That has now been
fixed so we are all in the same 4A division again.
5 middle schools
in SLC all have 2 grades in them. Middle schools are the Achilles
heel of our school system. Lots of problems with kids at that age.
Looking for new and innovative things. Looking for building a larger
middle school -grades 6-8 to learn to feel comfortable in that setting.
Relieves overcrowding in west side schools. Frees up classrooms
in 3k classrooms. Does not seem earthshaking to you. Will be the
start of more things like that. Comment: 6th graders are developmentally
ahead of the other kids. Have a crash project to develop a new strategic
plan. By June we want it finished. Not just words. Working on--how
does our budget reflect our strategic plan. Questions?
No committee
reports and no mayor's office report.
Last month
we talked about the old Montessori school property and we made a
mistake because the address in newsletter was inaccurate. First
thing we decided was that we wanted to ask CC if you want to bring
it up again. Show hands to discuss this again. 17 positives. Those
who would not like to revisit this issue. 9 against. Motion to discuss
this item again passes. Jack Plumb will tell us what his plans are
and then someone from the other side will report their concerns.
Jack Plumb
owns property at 502 East Third avenue & has pondered concerns
here and had plans enlarged to show us. Is very good at landscaping,
likes to think he makes effective changes in neighborhoods. Is not
a developer. Had no responsibility for mistake of the address put
in the newsletter last time. Whatever the result of tonight's discussion,
he will follow it. Piece of property he is talking about is directly
East of school. It's a parking lot for the school just west of it.
Planning commission thinks it's better not to have 2 different zones
in that area. That lot is not conducive to a multiple family unit.
Could be ideal as a patio having to do with use of the existing
bldg. Have changed windows in existing bldg. Spent 90 days with
historic society making sure things were done according to the historical
interests. Has permits for every part of it. Proud of what he has
done there. People walking by are also pleased with it. Has no intention
of changing that site building wise, just trying to coordinate the
2 sites together. With that in mind, has plenty of parking for the
area. Wants to put a patio out there. City wants to zone it commercial
like the other lot it's connected to. Presently zoned as multiple
family and next lot commercial. Can't build concept without changing
of zoning. City won't give permission to.
SLC planning
office says this property is in nonconforming status. Has already
been used for commercial use even though it's been zoned otherwise.
In 1995 this should all have been made into CN property then. By
changing zoning structure could be expanded to that lot or it could
be used as parking. Financing and insurance is affected on properties
by zoning changes which makes it easier for city. Can't develop
under existing zoning. Planning commission supports Plumb's plan.
Right now city says patio could be built on it as it is. Off street
parking will control what happens on property. CN requires landscaping.
Rezoning is most helpful to new owners who might develop this property
to a more commercial use. Concern by neighbors is that more commercial
development would come there. Setbacks were explained under current
conditions and commercial development of that property. Property
is residentially zoned but has non conforming use with piece of
commercial bldg on it. So it can be used for any commercial use
and depends on what that commercial use would be what the zoning
requirements are. Difference is in intensity which is defined by
setbacks. If this zoning is cleaned up it would make resale value
higher- non conforming is a big issue in the city.
Neighbors would
like to speak to this issue. Rebecca Raybould lives at 535 3rd Ave
and was asked by several of the folks in neighborhood to represent
them. She has a petition signed by several residents. GACC recommended
approval of this last month but the address was published wrong.
Residents were not aware because of that typographical error. Lot
is only suitable for very small office or shop. Upzoning would make
it possible for applicant to expand structure to larger entity.
Any change in zoning would affect privacy of 3 adjacent backyards.
Historic value is affected as well. Change would run in perpetuity.
Would be at the expense of our historic community. Residents have
no desire to expand more business into this area. Request you deny
zoning change. Question: what are size restrictions you can put
on this -depends on type of use. Bldg can only be 25 ft high. Still
in historic district. Setbacks are main difference residential zone
has 10 ft and 20 ft. Commercial has 7 ft and 10 ft. Parking is determined
by what kind of use it is. Right now that lot is an eyesore. That
is completely being overlooked. Retired architect living across
street understands zoning changes to be difficult process because
it protects everybody around there. Has to show compelling need.
Haven't heard those arguments yet. He is asking change for a specific
use. He can ask for a variance. A patio but nothing else. By doing
an issue by issue basis, we can vote on variance or no variance.
Incredible this has gone this far. Like knocking a thumbtack with
a sledgehammer. Motion original approval stand: 19 for. Against
9. original motion stands.
City creek
treatment plant upgrade: located 3 1/2 miles up city creek canyon.
Will remove ugly white bldg and replace it with tan bldg which they
hope blends in more with environment in the area. Current bldg is
not up to seismic standards. New bldg is just a little bigger. Old
plan has 2 bldgs and tank plus big bldg but new plan has it all
in one-cleaner, tidier. Terminal bldg will go away too. Other plans
are to landscape and replace equipment. New bldg will be lower.
Cost is $10 million, biggest impact will be during construction
and will begin Aug/Sept and last 14 months. Will cause traffic issue.
Are you upgrading whole plant? Has Chemicals, administration. Will
they change the way they chlorinate at all? No. Will limit number
of cars that can be brought up the canyon. Will escort heavy trucks
coming up canyon. Will insist they keep to speed limit. Want a canyon
users advisory committee. Sign up if you are interested. Does seismic
upgrade affect water so they will be more likely to have safe water
in them if something occurs? Supposedly. Wanted to do this project
a year ago but water use was down and collections went down with
use so had no money available. Rules of bike/car traffic every other
day still apply? Yes. Looking at substitute for chlorine as an upgrade
in future but don't anticipate further issues. Will proceed.
Legacy project
update: Phil Carroll reports project has been approved in that we
proceed with project to improve stairs going East up Memory Grove.
Minimizing costs of engineering and all that. Basic concept will
be to provide an infrastructure to provide lighting up that trail.
At switchbacks will try to celebrate volunteerism especially during
Olympics. Trying to upgrade this part of canyon to provide access
into park from avenues with good lighting.
Capitol Hill
Traffic Plan: Jim Jenkin says plan is to keep Victory Road traffic
from coming up through neighborhood and to keep them out. Signalization
plan was arrived at and discussed. Dot was ready to get started
this spring. Closure was put on table along with signalization.
2 meetings ago we did not have time to take a vote. Capitol Hill
CC has voted to pursue STUDY of closure by a large majority. 4th
adoption is to put a tunnel under the street. Study was done on
closure issue and presented at transportation advisory board. 1000
cars would be removed by closure. 800 of those would go to 3rd West.
Restoration project at capitol had planned on closure about 8 years
out so this has put it up. 4 Options: 1) nothing, 2) signals, 3)
close street (roundabout included), 4) tunnel under from Victory
Road to Main Street. Studied in engineering class 2 years ago. Was
once a proposal to tunnel there and come out at 2nd East. Rerouting
around capitol would add 30 more seconds which they anticipated
would cause 50% of people to use another route. To do signals would
cost $250,000 plus the cost to pull them out later. Motion: to support
deferring installation of signals on Columbus in order to fast tract
a closure of the option. Seconded. Discussion now. How would it
make it any faster to do study? If signals were put in we would
not want to do anything for 5 years to amortize cost of signals.
If built tunnel would also close Columbus. Motion vote 1 against.
The rest support. Motion passed.
Arthritis walk/run:
Sherry as a volunteer with arthritis foundation reports walk will
take place on May 1st at Ft. Douglas. Have 2 options 1 mile and
5 k. Nice route through Univ. dorms and Olympic village. Hoping
people will come out and want individuals to raise $100 each to
support this foundation. Over 7 million people nationwide have arthritis.
More than half of them are in Utah --extraordinarily high in Ogden
3/4 of them are women.
GACC purchase
of crosswalk flags: Terry Borman here to talk about crosswalk program
with Gwen Springmeyer from Mayor's office. 2nd Ave controlling traffic
and increasing safety for pedestrians. Cheapest, easiest, fastest
ways to increase safety and control traffic is to use flags. Cars
have a tendency to respect them more. Propose we expand the flag
program in avenues, especially for schools and places of increased
pedestrian traffic. Can add crosswalk to your neighborhood very
easily. Contact Gwen Springmeyer to ask about getting that done.
Flags cost 50 cents each. Can GACC take $200 from treasury and subsidize
cost of flags for people in neighborhood. Is an initial loss of
flags and then it settles down. Can use library as hub to pick up
flags and containers for them. Majority of flags are in lower Aves
but there is also a lot of pedestrian traffic on 11th Ave. Have
reduced pedestrian fatalities by 1/3. Let us know which intersection
you would like to adopt/sponsor. City will put in pole sign and
container for flags and provide the first 10 flags. Motion: we accept
funding of program as outlined and amend we have library keep them
here. Seconded. Discussion. All in favor -most.
Question on
lack of progress on South Temple? Gwen Springmeyer one issue is
settling of brick crosswalks, striping -progress is being made,
left turn lanes on 8th, 9th, and 13th. Intersection at 7th and South
Temple and removal of median. UDOT would like us to try living without
the median --- lighting and signage and crosswalks need to happen
so people don't end up waiting.
Adjourned at
9:00 pm.
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