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Greater Avenues Community Council Board Members Present: Thella Mae Christensen, Michael Hughes, Trish Orlando, Wayne Green, Jill Van Langeveld, Steve Mecham, Jim Jenkin, Ruth Morgan, Kat Kivett, Phil Carroll, Denton Taylor, Dave Jonsson, Shane Carlson, John Sittner, Aileen Olsen, Walter Jones, Angela Nguyen-Dinh. --Steve Mecham welcome 7:04p.m. --Police Report by Det. Evans. Two handouts plus blue card on Crime in Progress + 911 procedures. Give feedback, it is a test program. Stats: robbery 1 alarm, one at 7 eleven. Watch for inappropriate clothing in warmer weather. Call 799-3000 if looks suspicious. Be polite but firm with people helping with breakdowns, etc. Research on Aves area stats, there have been people loitering, casing. No mail thefts. ID theft. Check credit report twice a year. New Utah Renters Handbook. New Over-55 Handbook. Call Det. Evans to obtain. -- Alveeda Lauscher, Sweet Branch Library Manager. Upcoming Dewey Lecture series Jon Kazal re: public education and Main library. Overflow seating avail. Will be broadcast on KCPW radio. Exhibit on Darfour ends Sat May 6. Enlightening & powerful. Computer classes- downtown library tech center offers many. See library newsletter April-June. All classes are free. Basic to advanced. See brochure guest author Jacqueline Rachard Wed May changing name legally to deep end of the ocean (film & book title) From Madison Wisconsin, farm with hubby & 7 kids. Home improvement feature at Sweet library on now. --Avenues Street Fair- Walter Jones. May 6 mtg 8:30 a.m. LDS Hosp board room. Look for signs at Main Entrance. Date change to Sep 9 because of 9th & 9th Street Fair. --GACC Housing Compatability Committee report by Shane Carlson: A lot happening today. Jim & Shane & Lon met with Mayor. Plan Commission approved proposed overlay for GACC SR-1 Overlay as recommended b y Planning Office (modifications to GACC Overlay as submitted) After Planning Commiss approved, HCC met with Mayor, who asked how things were going. Process a concern, not sure why planning office made changes. Mayor asked planning office why they made changes. Reasons not sufficient to Mayor. He liked original better. He told planning office to rewrite recommendations back to HCC original. Overlay to city council soon? Shane received word that HCC overlay is on Thurs 5/4 agenda for city council. No vote will be taken, planning office will present info to city council. East annex of capitol building. First 30 minutes will be public comment, limited to 2 minutes each. No vote on May 9. Asking Eric if HCC can present to City council prior to vote. Data from planning dept does not substitute for HCC proposal back to original? Confusing at the moment, should clear up at meeting on 4th and 9th. Public input is important at those meetings. HCC will stress how important our original language is. Q. You need people to take two minutes in support of proposal? A. Yes, at 4th AND 9th. Next HCC meeting 5/8 7:00 p.m. at Sweet Library. See Avenues web page for updated info. --City Council Representative Eric Jergensen: schedule for May 4 mtg is tour of Avenues area looking at to talk about HCC issues historic home issue, monster issue, tandem parking, capitol hill parking issues to educate city council on these issues. Mtg at 7:00 half hour public comment, will give preference to District 3 and 1. HCC vote is on agenda for both May 4 and 9, but since no public hearing has been held, no vote can occur. Per Eric, no public hearing has been set yet. Can speak at general city council meetings also. Eric has had several calls re: Mt Olivet issue. 13 acres west of Rowland Hall behind East High football field. Zoned open space because it was expected to become cemetery space. Mt Olivet solvency required sale of some property. To sell property requires act of Congress. Reversion order is in place. City Council considered proposal to re-zone to allow sale. City decided to rezone part as park space leaving the rest as open space. Council looked long at options and how to preserve most open space possible in this parcel. Goal to preserve open space at no cost to city. 64% should remain open space. Two trails, N-S & E-W. Call Eric with any questions. SLC Budget season. Will talk more at June meeting on budget issues and Mayor’s proposed 13% property tax increase. What services would result. Q. Can you put 4th Avenue stairs on tour. A. It IS. Q. Lindsey Gardesn off leash area. A. Much discussion has occurred. All other off leash parks require fencing. Fencing would ruin Lindsey Gardens? Can off leash be effective without fence? City Council looking at the issue. Enforcement? A. It is a difficult issue city-wide. Signs with phone number to report those who don’t clean up? Also ownership limits being discussed by City Council. Considering three types of license breeders, hobby, rescue permit, each with different criteria. Call Eric with any input. 532-4844 home. Office 535-7600 at city council office, ask for Marge Harvey. Believe 4 votes on city council that will pass HCC overlay. --Mayor’s Office, Gwen Springmeyer, excused (Happy Birthday!) --Scott Mc Coy, Ralph Becker, State Legislature: Session completed, now in slower session. On the table is the income tax change proposal. Flat tax being considered. Recent proposal is a true flat tax or current system, and individuals could choose. (Have to do taxes twice?) Give Ralph or Scott input on this matter. Q. When original flat tax proposed, was it revenue neutral? Makes it seem tax cut, not neutral. Would effect education? Could minority party use Utah Foundation report? A. Just came from Central City Comm Council mtg, where that point was brought up. Democrat position is that any change should be revenue neutral as every dollar less in taxes reduces education funding. Last version in senate was 70-million revenue reduction to state. Overflow would have reduced class sizes K-6 to 20 from 28. Middle schools and secondary also. And funded kindergarten, which has shown to be best help to future school success. Democrats pushing revenue neutral approach. Scott: Senate dealt with flat tax. House debated but did not vote. Scott voted against as 1. not being revenue neutral and hurtind education funding. 2nd for philosophical issues with flat tax as not being progressive rates as historically part of tax code, a fundamental principle. Current system working, economic development continues in state. Practical purposes is a flat tax now. Everyone pays 7% level. Bill Jones/Mascaro is revenue neutral. Reforms tax system, stretches tax brackets, turns back into progressive system. Adds credits for lower income brackets. Is reality of flat tax harder on lower income brackets? Allows higher brackets to pad with credits? A. yes, historically higher b rackets have more benefit. Q. will be on primary ballot next month? --Open Forum Michael Hughes Utah Alcoholism Foundation Open House, May 23, 3-6pm. --Recycling Jill Van Langeveld: hazardous Waste Recycling Salt Lake County Board of Health offering Haz Waste Recycling 4th Thurs monthly now til Sept. 7-10am Costco Parking Lot 1800 S 300 West. --Aileen Olsen GACC Community Garden Meeting Sat May 6 10:00 a.m. --Q. Mayors Bike to Work Day info? A. None avail at present. Can Gwen provide? --Erica Dahl LDS Hospital: new brochure talking about future of LDS Hospital. Brochures here at meeting. Life Flight info, number of beds and staff, and services that will continue. --Phil Carroll: Memory Grove Cleanup Sat May 13, 8am til 12noon, lunch will follow. Great activity. Bring gloves & sunscreen & shade. Q. What areas will be cleaned, i.e. above grass area? A. Yes. Recommends boots. There have been drug needles in area. Be careful. --Jim Jenkin Traffic Committee: Traffic Advisory Board had sidewalks presentation, also on I-80 renovation from State to 1300 East. Looks like late 2007 project. Enviro study underway. Univ reviving dev impact liaison committee, dormant for years, will begin meeting in June. Jim will ask for input & effect of Univ on traffic pattern. Jim has radar gun if anyone wants to borrow. --Steve Mecham on Global Warming issue: Resolution presented in May, immediate debate resulted, followed by a motion to table. GACC Board mtg in April decided not to address issue. Board suggested get a sense from Comm Council if they want board to address matter further. Straw vote taken 5/3/06, non-binding, would members of the community council present tonight want to see Global Warming resolution at future meetings? 9 in favor, 13 opposed. Steve and Board will take that into consideration. --Patty Carpenter, Sarah George Utah Museum of Natural History. Plans in development. Background-major federal and state repository for intermountain west. 1.2 million objects owned, displaying only 1%. Building doesn’t have storage capacity or conditions to properly store items. Refurbish or build new? 2nd storage bldg on campus and west side storage building. Working with Univ to select site. 2 sites NE edge of research park immed S of Red Butte. Good opportunity to expand some exhibits to outside areas. Good trails & access. 3yrs ago started in depth planning process. 200 interviews across state, design consultants came up with exciting interpretive plan. See boards at today’s meeting. Native voices demo & performance to be included. Research to be highlighted. Paleontology + archaeology. Open labs, open storage. Architect selected, SLC & NY firms. Exhibit designer from NY, Landscape design from SLC. 110 –member team designing content. Enviro impact study being performed – in draft now. Reviewed by Park Service now. Will have public review (July 06) Design to be released Fall 06. Break ground summer 2007, 2 ½ year construction, one year to move collections. See Museum’s web site. Give feedback. Goal to fit site into vegetation, wildlife and public usage. Joint study with Red Butte, This is the Place, Hogle Zoo on traffic, transit, shuttles from Trax stop. Recreational use, visual quality part of design. Exterior design still being considered. Exhibits 1/3 of total budget. Goal to connect people to state’s history. Q. what portion of exhibits would change? A. much more than at present. Can only bring in 20% of exhibits now. Main change exhibit space will change 3 times per year. Want to highlight current research by Univ and others. Not a past-focused museum. Galleries to include Utah Futures, to address current and future issues. Community space also. Q. Permanent exhibit portion gets stale. A. permanent for museums is 20 years. In last 5 years, 50% of Utah’s museum exhibits have changed. Q. Attempt to use green building techniques? A. yes, working for lead accreditation, hiring commissioning agent to oversee lead rating for the building. State’s standards are to a silver level, working within museum’s budget, will try for a gold level rating. I.e. Roof water to create small wetlands, recycle waste construction? Part of Utah Futures concept. Q. Is museum coordinate with other museums in state? A. This museum provides exhibits to other museums and provides traveling exhibits. Most traveling exhibits brought in Q. Will you be vacating existing building? Yes, number of departments want that space. $15 from Congress, $14 mill from private donors, focusing on other donation avenues. --Leroy Hooton, SLC Public Utilities City Creek potential runoff. Everyone compares to 1983 flood. His office watches numbers daily. Wet & dry cycles over last 100 years. Snowtell measuring device up in city creek. Transmits daily to SLC office. Measures amount of water in snowpack. 30 inches this winter. 20 inches prior year. Lookout Peak is headwaters of City Creek, Emigration, Delfork and Parleys. Higher elevation indicator. 2005 was 38 inches, 2006 is 43 inches. Record levels at high elevation. Predictor of runoff levels. Peak level has been dropping since March. But big concern for everyone. Helicopter went up to check it out. Capacity issue looked at Cubic feet per second in City Creek. 75-80 cfsec at present. In 1983 hit 383 cfsec. Cold first three weeks of may in 1983. in 1984 we had more snow, but runoff was only 191 cfsec, because it melted over a longer period of time. 1984 caused no problems. Water has been moved out of watershed earlier this year. High snowfall this year, and on April 15, Emigration Creek had record level flows. Melting + new precipitation. 1300 S 1800 East converge from Emigration & Parleys. 5-inch error rating – too high – in initial measurements. Actual flood danger is lower. Mean daily flows predictor in cfsec shows April was predicted 240 cfs to 360 cfsec. By May 1 predictions dropped to 165 cfs to 200. May 3 prediction 160 to 200. So well within range of volumes handled in past. City Creek area is 19.2 square miles of runoff. Creek designed to go down North Temple. Went down State Street in 1983 because debris clogged normal pathway. 84-inch pipe on North Temple. Q. 1952 flood also went down State Street to 1300 South. Now new 60-inch pipe comes out of Memory Grove, 84 inch pipe on N Temple, 42 inch pipe on 400 North to Jordan River, plus pump plant to pull higher volumes. City feels good about current system. City Creek Conduit model shows 220 c f sec capacity in system at present. Highest flood leve predicted this year was 201. Actual current is 160. Dredging JHorgan River, stabilizing banks of City Creek will prevent debris runoff, debris basins along city creek, also in memory grove. Controlling flow into Jordan river with flood gates at 2100 S. No Temple manhole extensions can be used in emergency. 25000 sand ags ready plus 100,000 empties, crews cleaning debris constantly on grates. City is prepared and in good shape. Extreme temps could cause some flooding. Q. Memory Grove sandbagging last year, will you do this again this year? A. yes, to prevent some bank washing away in areas under construction. Q. Will city remove sandbags from last year? A. City will look into it. --Pioneer Park – Dale Cook. Phase I Master Plan, Phase II master plan. Trees in random pattern, Rio Grande Comm Council, local residents a& businesses surveyed, hotels, one year of meetings developed master plan. Goal was to activate Pioneer Park for year round activities and public safety. Change image of park. Quadrants analyzed for activities. New tree structure to create open green space. Open up center of park to accommodate events, youth soccer, Frisbee, small groups, etc, active and passive recreation. N end is Farmers Market, expansion planned to three sides of park. Armor the park against the wear of the Farmers Market. Festival space in center plaza. Concession building, dining tables covered & open. Can be covered in winter. Visitor activities for tourists. Stage I is funded, construction docs being created now. Break Ground after 2006 Farmers Market, to be completed prior to 2007 Farmers Market. Improve corners to create formal entry feel. Three leg trail around park – skating oval with jog track. No change to existing curb & gutter. Stage II (if funded) open center core. Green lawn to focus on plaza, looks similar to Gallivan plaza. Phase IV history gardens, first Mormon settlement, fort, 1,000 families. Then other ethnic groups used that space over time. Q. don’t understand millions into park where public will go? If you build it, will people come? People go to Liberty, people feel safe there. Fighting a long time for park to feel safe. Why put $ if it isn’t safe and public doesn’t see it as safe? A. First part of master plan process was to have input from stakeholders. What would make it feel safe? Idea to “activate” the park. Must open it up design wise to make it feel safe. Gradual working in from edge. Should help people use exterior of park, populate it every week. Q. Wasn’t that the idea of the millions that have been put in so far? The infrastructure put in so far for activities has not been helpful. A. Obviously a re-design was needed. Q. 4th street clinic a magnet for the homeless. Has this been addressed? A. City looking for new location for the clinic. Shelter and Clinic in every planning meeting. They have to have a place too, city believes homeless can co-mingle with the public with appropriate activity levels as on Farmers Market Days where people feel safe. Map of new housing around park in last 5 years, over 1400 units within 2 ½ blocks. This new plan creates recreational space for those. Q.. archealogical survey of park? A. in process now. Archaelogical rep will be on site for all excavation. Q. Peace Gardens at Jordan park, not safe nowadays, fear that Pioneer Park will be similar? A. Pioneer Park and Peace Gardens will have different ethnic gardens. Dark areas in Peace Gardens, improved Jordan Trail and added lighting. Public use has increased safety. Similar plan for Pioneer Park, activating the space with public use. --Vicki Bennett, SLC Environmental Programs Manager. Invite to become E2Citizens, see card in back, see City web page. City has E2 Business Plan, then started E2 Citizen Plan. City started internally to work on efficiencies. Expanded to small businesses for last three years. 40 businesses have qualified so far. Sign up at www.slcgreen.com. Choose 5 things you will commit to do to conserve and help environment. Also helps economically. Meeting Adjourned 8:50p.m.
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